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My account was banned, due the ''honor explotation''
OpioDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 5:53 PM | Message # 1
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Whats going on here?
I just received an email from Areria where they informe thta my account was banned for ''honor explotation''
Ive checked and almost all the high levels of Xiolin been banned.
We lots all our points and our honor armur.
High levels of the tiger side didnt got banned, why? I have no idea.
I ve send a ticket to Aeria,heres the copy of the mail I send:

Dear sirs:

Ive received an e-mail from you where you inform me that my acount was banned for a week and my honor points and honor armur had been removed pemanently, due the honor explotation.
What are you talking about?
Which explotation of the Honor Battleground is this about?
Are you talking about the points we get killing moobs on the Battleground?
If thats the case I must tell you this:
1.Theres a huge group of players that all they do is kill moobs on the battleground (1 and 2), to get points, in both factions, so if killing those moobs is bannable, I think you must ban a whole group of players,and as far as I see, you only banned most of the dragons that was on the Temple of Honor.Tigers didn’t got banned, why?
2.All we can do in the Battle Ground 2 is kill moobs,tigers barely show, just recently they started to offer us some fights, figths that last no longer than 30 minutes,after that, they just dissapear, leaving us a whole map, full of moobs to kill in the rest of the time,thats a round 1 hour and a half,so, Iam telling you again , that all we can do in the Battle Ground 2 is just that: kill moobs, what do you expect from us to do?
3.On wich part of your rules appear the former action I described as an explotation?
The Redcliffs Battles are an event that its part of the game, we attend it everytime we can,so isnt nothing that we make in our own, its a part of the game.
I describe, again, what we do: We attend the Battle, we figth the tigers (if theres any), we complete our objetives (kill messengers,register the books and kill the Bosses), we do this in less than 30 minutes, after that we kill moobs.
Its forbidden to kill those moobs?
If the answer is yes, please show me where you stablish that, Ive readed the ToS 3 times, and I didnt find any rule that forbide that.

Expecting an answer form you, and highly surprised by all this;

Best Regards.

I dont know whats going here, but I really dont like this.
I hope thos e who got banned on this strange situation, form a group and togheter try to solve this....
...getting tired of this shit anyways.
Hope I heard from you soon.

Regards.

Opio.

 
KotegawaDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 7:50 PM | Message # 2
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This is ridicule....
 
OpioDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 7:55 PM | Message # 3
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yup..it is....tigers dont got banned...and me and the high levels of Xiolin can provide the same information: Tigers also went to BG2 to farm points.....so,tell me, whats going on here?
Why the Game Masters went directly only to the Dragon players?
Why we got banned, wich rule we broke?
Answers please
 
KotegawaDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 8:14 PM | Message # 4
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I just checked... Ben Missy Aokil Max Leli Natasja all lost your honor points... so i figure all of ya also got a temp ban for 7 day or something.
 
KotegawaDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 8:24 PM | Message # 5
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I managed to get this from Panda to tell you guys in the meanwhile.

"That the GMs havent finished going thru the players, Aracton went home quite sick and vert has mondays off. So before they complain that the tigers werent banned, just wait i already left a wall of text for aracton that he shouldnt have just left with only dragons banned."

 
OpioDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 8:41 PM | Message # 6
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Thanks Kote for the info.

Now seriusly....do you think all this is about getting also the tigers banned?
Aracton went home,Vert mondays off...c'mon mate....
This is just a little part of the normal reaction.

Getting the tigers banned (if) will not make me any happy anyways.

Theres no reason to get banned.

 
SunTzuDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 9:00 PM | Message # 7
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If you can get banned for killings mobs in BG....why are they even there? If you are not hacking and regular game play allows it...whats the problem?
And as far as I'm concerned I am Loyal to Xiaolin first then dragons...if they turn on us over petty jealousy....then screw em...
If being accused of something why are you not allowed to defend yourself? And why was there no explanation as to what exactly was the ban-able offense?
Sounds like a witch hunt to me....someone has a grudge...
I for one am with the leadership of Xiaolin...
 
YangFeiDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 9:42 PM | Message # 8
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Is there any Rules against farming scores in BG....if not...this is really really weird.
Is GM siding on 1 side ?
Man this is so lame....it seems not make any sense at all...we're not exploiting bug, we just killing mobs and bosses rite. I see nothin is wrong with that. This is so..............zzzzzzzzzz.
 
DraxDate: Monday, 2009-10-26, 11:54 PM | Message # 9
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i am backing you all the way OPio andthe rest of you who have been banned ... THIS IS NOT RIGHT you guys didnt do anything wrong but play well as at team and some one got mad about it .. and i dont care if i get banned as well but i am protesting this .. cause you didnt expliont a glitch in the game or a bug ... you explioted good team work and some one is a sore loser ..

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Honor Expliotation?

how is it honor expliotation to play the game as it was entended with no one else to fight ... if you are on BG2 andteh tigers dont show or quite and you go and kill the regular mobs as they are ment to be killed ... and gain honor from it what have you dont wrong .. if you dont have any competion who else are you to fight ... we are supposed to just sit there and do nothing .. i havent been banned and my asking this may cause me to be but what you have done to the players that you DID ban was wrong ... and you didnt ban any tigers either ....only dragon players ...even now if you do ban tiger what good does this do.. explioting a bug or a glitch in the game i can understand banning them for buying gold from a site but even your TOS says that the expliotation has to come from a BUG .. this isnt a bug its how the game was ment to be played and those poeple banned just did that PLAYED .. with no one to fight but reg mobs in the BG map ... and now they are being punnished .. .. this should be mentioned and not let go cause its a wrongful banning and your bannishment is going to cost this game we all lvoe to dearly ... cause if we cant just play they way it was ment to be then why play at all .. i hate to repeat myself but this wasnt a bug or glitch in the game like the gold bug i have heard about( long before my gaming time here in DS) ... example you go to bg no tigers show up or quite 30 min after playing and you and your party are left to do what ever you want ... what are you going to DO ... your going to go after the mob that gives the most honor other wise your a fool and why shouldnt you theres nothig else to do ... for the next 1.5HRS .. either way banned me or not what was done was wrong period and not an expliotation of anything other then some one got there feelings hurt or got jelouse and found a way to expliot YOUR rules and get good players booted .. how is that HONORABLE ... and how do those banned players get to defend themselves ..
Thank you for your time ..

DraxousLi

sent this letter to GMAracton in defence of all of you who just got banned ... ( hope i dont get banned but if so you will know why ....

 
KotegawaDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 0:40 AM | Message # 10
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Tx mate, and i dont think you would get banned for sending a letter, that would be the most idiotic thing they could do at this point.
... mind you, i've seen them do pretty idiotic things before.... rolleyes
 
MaxpennyDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 2:25 AM | Message # 11
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I think the main reason we get ban because many dragons don't want see all Xiaolin on the Temple of Hornor and they keep reporting! as everyone said nothing wrong with killing boss in BG we didn't use any third party! BG2 very boring because of no Tiger so what level 71+ going to do in 2 hours of BG or just stay there and chat.. Thanks for everyone supporting us for being banned!!

Maxpenny

 
SpeedxDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 4:45 AM | Message # 12
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Quote (SunTzu)
If you can get banned for killings mobs in BG....why are they even there?

totally agree with Sun and Kote

Quote (Kotegawa)
This is ridicule....

Now GMs really did a stupid? idiotic? thing... bah, can't even find a correct adjective...


GIRLS & BEER, THE WINNING COUPLE

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NatasjaDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 5:04 AM | Message # 13
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Seems like the game is going to lose every 71+ player in the game now... I am fed up with those motherfuckers who can't do anything right... I asked in their forum 2 months ago if they could remove the points that mobs give from battleground, because it ruins the gamefun especially in bg1. If no tigers show up in BG2, the BG should be automatically won there... But they kept the points etc, and now it is called exploiting if you gain points by killing them? Ridiculous...

In reply to my email-notification on my ban, I sent them this:

"Dear admins,

I would like to know what kind of exploit I have been doing. I have joined more then 12 Battelgrounds, in which I have been killing both tigers and monsters. When I became 71+ there were no tigers in battleground, and therefor battleground 2 has been very boring.

In order to make battleground 2 a bit more interesting, we decided to grind on the messengers, so we would get points, even though there were no tigers there. Ironically, I have posted a suggestion in the forum, to ask if the admins / GM's could please remove the points those monsters in battleground gave, because they ruined the gameplay in battleground 1. (people grinding mobs instead of other faction).

The game provides points for each kill, and therefor we can grind them. I have never read anything about it being illegal for a player to kill the monsters in Red Cliff. But since this is illegal, I guess that not only my char Natasja is banned, but every 71+ Dragon, as well as every 71+ tiger, since they have been doing the same after they were able to join Battleground 2, and noticed we outnumbered them, so they gave up on fighting us... (becoming very boring for us as well).

I now have the feeling I am being punished for the fact that I spent 8-14 hours per day grinding to become lvl 80, ending up in a battleground that is too boring to attend. Furthermore, the removal of the bg-armor-set on my char sounds very unfair to me, since I killed 121 tigers in battleground 1, and that gave me enough points to buy the first set... After I became lvl 80, I traded my lvl 80-set for my lvl 60-set and I added some gold to it.

Could I please get an explanation on the reason for my ban?

With kind regards,

Tom (Natasja, lvl 80 dragon)"

 
DraxDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 5:44 AM | Message # 14
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And yes my protest can get me banned from the game .. Omega even told me before i sent the message to GM Aracton.. if you protest a ban your asking to be banned yourself .. i just checked and as of yet no i havent been banned but then GM Aracton went home sick so he hasnt reseaved my message yet ..
 
NatasjaDate: Tuesday, 2009-10-27, 5:47 AM | Message # 15
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I hope you will not be banned for that, drax... I appreciate the fact that you vouch for us my friend...
 
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